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==Echo Cancellation== | ==Echo Cancellation== | ||
Echo occurs on analog lines on the 2 wire to 4 wire conversion, also some acoustic echo occurs in the handset. Strong echo occurs during handsfree operation. | |||
The term echo cancellation is used in telephony to describe the process of removing echo from a voice communication in order to improve voice quality on a telephone call. | The term echo cancellation is used in telephony to describe the process of removing echo from a voice communication in order to improve voice quality on a telephone call. | ||
Echo is perceived as echo if the delay is longer than a few milliseconds. Traditional PSTN lines have a delay below that limit. VOIP lines add delay to the connection, so that echo is recognized and needs to be removed. This is usually done with a echocanceller. | |||
Echo cancellation involves first recognizing the originally transmitted signal that re-appears, with some delay, in the transmitted or received signal. | Echo cancellation involves first recognizing the originally transmitted signal that re-appears, with some delay, in the transmitted or received signal. | ||
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Once the echo is recognized, it can be removed by 'subtracting' it from the transmitted or received signal. | Once the echo is recognized, it can be removed by 'subtracting' it from the transmitted or received signal. | ||
This technique is implemented using a digital signal processor (DSP) | This technique is implemented using a digital signal processor (DSP): | ||
By | By correlation the received voice signal witht the transmitted voice signal, the echo canceller can create a model of the echo path which is in turn used to estimate the echo. | ||
This estimation is then subtracted from the incoming voice signal allowing normal speech to pass through. | This estimation is then subtracted from the incoming voice signal allowing normal speech to pass through. | ||
The core of the algorithm is an adaptive filter. The length of that filter affects the processing power needed and defines the max echo length that can be cancelled. | |||
===Line Echo Cancellation=== | |||
The echo delay on a telephony line should be below a few milliseconds. However, todays PSTN networks are not alway pure TDM networks, they use internal IP or ATM technology so that higher delays of e.g 30ms can occur. So for VOIP gateways it is important that they can handle echo after a reasonable long delay. | |||
Maximum Echo cancellation - maximum echo length (echo tail) | |||
Maximum Echo cancellation - maximum echo length (echo | |||
IP400 16msec | IP400 16msec | ||
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===Acoustic Echo Cancellation=== | |||
On IP phones the echo path is very limited (form the phone to the handset ), so the maximum echo length is not critical. That changes in handsfree mode, then the echo length depends on the size of the room. Since that phone and people in the room may move around, the echo changes during a call. | |||
This type of echo can be reduced with a simple echo reducer. A echo reducer implements half duplex comminications ( mute the phones micro if the speaker is active ). This is done on the (old) IP200. | |||
New phones ( IP200A,IP110,IP230 etc ) use an acoustic echocanceller that adapts continously during a call to room echo of up to 96ms. | |||
===Troubleshooting Echo Cancellation=== | |||
It is no solution to make volume adjustments on the Endpoints for solving the Echo problem | |||
If you encounter an echo problem – pleas check this : | If you encounter an echo problem – pleas check this : | ||
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Do you meet the Echo problem always ? | Do you meet the Echo problem always ? | ||
* between IP phones ? | * between IP phones ? Simple echo tests using IP phones on one floor or even in one room may lead to the conclusion that there is echo. In this case there a 2 voice pathes, one direct acoustic path without delay and one over the IP network with delay. Echo tests between IP phones need to be done between IP phones without a direct acoustic path. | ||
* between ISDN and IP phones ? Echo perceived on the IP phones results from the echo canceller on the ISDN gateway, echo perceived on the ISDN phone results from the echocanceller of the IP phone. | |||
* between analog phones and/or Dect phones to IP phones or ISDN (connected an analog adapter IP21,IP22,IP24)? | |||
IF this problem is with analog or Dect Phone - occurs with very old Dect phones in very few cases, - the best solution here is - eliminate this phone. ( IP600 with G.711 DSP doesnt provide echo cancellation and relies on a echo-free DECT phone ) | |||
If you have a general voice qualitity problem you may have a problem in your IP network, but is another story. | |||
== Related Articles == | == Related Articles == | ||
Revision as of 10:15, 25 August 2007
Applies To
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- all innovaphone products
any build
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Having echo on the Endpoints
General
The presence of echo occurs whenever the replicated signal delay exceeds 10msec , and becomes apparent to the speaker as reflected voice when the delay exceeds as little as 16 msec.
It is manifested to the far end as an altered replica of the speaker original.
Causes of Delay
Delay in telephony context is the time during which voice signals travel across the network.
End-to-end delay is the sum of delays required for a voice signal generated by the speaker's mouth to cross the different network devices and network links in order to reach the listener's ear.
Round trip delay is the sum of end-to-end delay in both directions as it is reflected back to the speaker's ear.
The two directions can take separate paths over the Pstn, one through a satellite and one via land-lines, for example.
Echo Cancellation
Echo occurs on analog lines on the 2 wire to 4 wire conversion, also some acoustic echo occurs in the handset. Strong echo occurs during handsfree operation. The term echo cancellation is used in telephony to describe the process of removing echo from a voice communication in order to improve voice quality on a telephone call.
Echo is perceived as echo if the delay is longer than a few milliseconds. Traditional PSTN lines have a delay below that limit. VOIP lines add delay to the connection, so that echo is recognized and needs to be removed. This is usually done with a echocanceller.
Echo cancellation involves first recognizing the originally transmitted signal that re-appears, with some delay, in the transmitted or received signal.
Once the echo is recognized, it can be removed by 'subtracting' it from the transmitted or received signal.
This technique is implemented using a digital signal processor (DSP):
By correlation the received voice signal witht the transmitted voice signal, the echo canceller can create a model of the echo path which is in turn used to estimate the echo.
This estimation is then subtracted from the incoming voice signal allowing normal speech to pass through.
The core of the algorithm is an adaptive filter. The length of that filter affects the processing power needed and defines the max echo length that can be cancelled.
Line Echo Cancellation
The echo delay on a telephony line should be below a few milliseconds. However, todays PSTN networks are not alway pure TDM networks, they use internal IP or ATM technology so that higher delays of e.g 30ms can occur. So for VOIP gateways it is important that they can handle echo after a reasonable long delay.
Maximum Echo cancellation - maximum echo length (echo tail)
IP400 16msec IP3000 24msec IP302,IP305,IP800,IP6000 64msec IP1200 32msec
Acoustic Echo Cancellation
On IP phones the echo path is very limited (form the phone to the handset ), so the maximum echo length is not critical. That changes in handsfree mode, then the echo length depends on the size of the room. Since that phone and people in the room may move around, the echo changes during a call.
This type of echo can be reduced with a simple echo reducer. A echo reducer implements half duplex comminications ( mute the phones micro if the speaker is active ). This is done on the (old) IP200.
New phones ( IP200A,IP110,IP230 etc ) use an acoustic echocanceller that adapts continously during a call to room echo of up to 96ms.
Troubleshooting Echo Cancellation
It is no solution to make volume adjustments on the Endpoints for solving the Echo problem
If you encounter an echo problem – pleas check this :
Do you meet the Echo problem always ?
- between IP phones ? Simple echo tests using IP phones on one floor or even in one room may lead to the conclusion that there is echo. In this case there a 2 voice pathes, one direct acoustic path without delay and one over the IP network with delay. Echo tests between IP phones need to be done between IP phones without a direct acoustic path.
- between ISDN and IP phones ? Echo perceived on the IP phones results from the echo canceller on the ISDN gateway, echo perceived on the ISDN phone results from the echocanceller of the IP phone.
- between analog phones and/or Dect phones to IP phones or ISDN (connected an analog adapter IP21,IP22,IP24)?
IF this problem is with analog or Dect Phone - occurs with very old Dect phones in very few cases, - the best solution here is - eliminate this phone. ( IP600 with G.711 DSP doesnt provide echo cancellation and relies on a echo-free DECT phone )
If you have a general voice qualitity problem you may have a problem in your IP network, but is another story.